ANDREA MITCHELL (HOST): Joanna, you work for Homeland, and Homeland is the center of this dispute. All the other appropriations bills have been passed actually by both houses, and now re-passed by the House. And what about the whole argument that border security is being ignored by Democrats and has to be dealt with first before any negotiations on getting the government reopened?
JOANNA MCCLELAND (FURLOUGHED DHS EMPLOYEE): It's hard to hear, because the goalposts keep moving. You know, it was a wall, and then it was the steel slats, and now it's, you know, we're changing it to border security. And being in the federal government and, you know, I'm detailed to a Customs and Border Protection office right now, I know that we're dedicated to border security. So it's kind of hard hearing either side, both sides, arguing about a lack of border security, when, you know, I'm in an office that knows what programs are being built on the border, and I know that we're funding it. I know that this is all happening. So it's kind of hard to hear, you know, it seem disingenuous for this argument to even be happening right now.
